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HomeMy WebLinkAbout09052002 BSC Agenda Item 5 • • Building & Standards Commission Municipal Building, Bill Watson Conference Room 3800 UNIVERSITY BOULEVARD Meeting Minutes August 1, 2002 MEMBERS PRESENT: James McDaniel, David Kehn, Patrick O'Donnell, Bryant Slimp Les Albin and Muddy McDaniel (Muddy McDaniel and Les Albin arrived at Y � Y 6:10 p.m. after agenda item 6 had already begun) MEMBERS ABSENT: James Collier,Jorge Jimenez-Marcos, and Darryl Friday COUNCIL LIASION: Mike Farley, absent STAFF PRESENT: Ne lih n Bilir Tesno, Sal l ye S s a es o, Sa ye Clark and Dennis Mack 1. Call to Order. With a quorum,present James McDaniel called the meeting to order at 6:02 p.m. 2. Citizens who wish to be heard. None. 3. Citizens who wish to address agenda items. None. 4. Designation of voting members. James McDaniel stated per the alternate voting schedule that Patrick 0' Donnell is the voting member for the meeting. After agenda item six the voting arrangement was revised by Jim McDaniel, Chairman. 5. Meeting Minutes. David Kehn made a motion to approve the July 10, 2002 minutes as written. Bryant Slimp seconded the motion. AYES: James McDaniel, David Kehn, and Bryant Slimp. NOES: None. ABSTAIN: Patrick O'Donnell. Motion passed. Minutes approved. 6. Variance Request. Dennis Mack gave a brief overview relating to a variance request at 3812 Marlowe. Dennis Mack stated that the Fire Marshal did a Final Inspection and did not pass the Fire Alarm System installed, as he did not feel that it met the requirements of the Standard Codes Schedule,International Residential Code, 2000 Edition,and Chapter 8 of the NFPA 72. Mark Palmer with Texas Home Electronics contractor stated that the system is a low voltage, hard wired, monitoring system, interconnected and equipped with a control panel. Mr. Palmer confirmed that the system is connected to the house power and connected to battery backup that will set off an alarm if a problem occurs or a battery is low. Mr. Palmer stated that he has tried contacting NFPA to ask questions about the regulations in question and has had no response from them. He stated that as of this date he has not received anything in writing of the regulation from the City of West University Place other than the memo to Dennis Mack from Terry Stevenson,Fire Chief. Mr. Palmer introduced John Bates who is the licensed registered Fire Alarm Technician for Texas Home Electronics who has inspected the system at 23812 Marlowe. Mr. Palmer also introduced Jim Guzman who is an electrician for Joe Schwartz Electric who does work for Texas Home Electronics. Steve Ralls,Acting Fire Chief affirmed that the issue is not which system is better or more competent it is that smoke detectors are only local and when the current homeowner does not want to have monitored, the alarm company can come and take the panel out completely. There are only requirements for inspections for commercial buildings and not for residential, so a change in occupancy could make the system inoperable and it becomes an issue of Life Safety. LES ALBIN stated that he will recluse himself from voting since he knows Texas Home Electronics. Building and Standards Commission Minutes • August 1,2002 Meeting 2 After discussion, David Kehn made a motion to grant the variance as requested by applicant. James McDaniel seconded the motion. AYES: James McDaniel, David Kehn, and Muddy McDaniel. NOES: Bryant Slimp and Patrick O'Donnell ABSTAIN: Les Albin. Motion passed. Variance granted. James McDaniel, Chairman requested that BSC come up with an interpretation of NFPA for the City of West University Place on how smoke detectors and systems can be wired. He requested that at the September or October meeting that BSC address and make recommendations for the NFPA72 requirements on Smoke detectors, Alarms and System requirements. At that meeting, he would like Terry Stevenson, Steve Ralls and Al Collins to attend. Independent Review of Construction Plans. Jim McDaniel asked Dennis Mack if he had any written documents (i.e., a draft of the forms and to rework the memo to include the concerns of the members.)that he was suppose to bring back to BSC from the July meeting. Dennis Mack stated that he did not have a written document that he thought they were going to have discussion. He discussed that he had obtained a list of Registered Engineers and that the engineer would be verified to make sure that engineer was not only registered but that they have training in the specific type of work that they are placing their seal on. Les Albin stated that he wanted to see written procedures of how things are going to work with Review of Construction Plans of engineered foundations and structures. A request was made that a Development Services Building Packet and Plan Review Checklist be included in the BSC packets for the September meeting. David Kehn left the meeting at 7:45 during agenda item 7 discussions and a quorum was still present. After discussion, Les Albin made a motion that BSC request that Staff develop a procedure to review plans by an independent Professional Engineer licensed in the state of Texas for foundation and structural plans. Bryant Slimp seconded the motion. AYES: Muddy McDaniel, Les Albin, and Bryant Slimp. NOES: Jim McDaniel, Patrick O'Donnell. Motion passes. Jim McDaniel stated that a letter would have to be written to staff to request that they develop a procedure. Les Albin moved that BSC request that City Council direct Staff to develop a procedure to review plans by an independent Professional Engineer licensed in the state of Texas for foundation and structural plans. Bryant Slimp seconded the motion. AYES: Les Albin,Bryant Slimp. NOES: Jim McDaniel,Patrick O'Donnell and Muddy McDaniel. Motion failed. 8. Building Standards Questionnaire/Survey. Bryant Slimp again requested that staff report on the general survey that was sent out earlier this year, how was it justified, rationalized and how was it implemented. Les Albin and Bryant Slimp stated that they wanted the information requested by staff first before discussing intent and objectives. Jim McDaniel will get in touch with Michael Ross to get the information requested from him. Les Albin said that he wanted it stated for the record that he did not feel like BSC was making progress when requesting information from Staff and actually getting the information. It was requested that this item be placed on Septembers agenda. No action was taken on this item. 9. Staff Comments. Dennis Mack stated that he would forward the proposed amendment on use of purple PVC Primer and Schedule 40 PVC to City Council for approval. Building and Standards Commission Minutes • August 1,2002 Meeting 3 10. Commission Member Comments. Les Albin reported from the ZPC meeting the discussion of eave projection into setbacks and would it be appropriate to require use of Fire Safety material. Les Albin requested that discussion of Fire Safety Materials in construction of houses in particular, emphasis on eaves be put on the September meeting agenda for discussion. 11. Adjournment. Les Albin made a motion to adjourn. Muddy McDaniel seconded the motion. AYES: Jim McDaniel, Les Albin, Bryant Slimp, Patrick O'Donnell, and Muddy McDaniel. NOES: None. Motion passed.Meeting adjourned at 8:25 p.m. PASSED THIS DAY OF , 2002. James McDaniel, Chairman ATTEST: Sallye A. Clark,Planning and Development Assistant