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HomeMy WebLinkAbout08052004 BSC Agenda Item 2 4 • co ity e est -; versi-ty Place A Neighborhood City to Recycled Paper O Building & Standards Commission 3826 Amherst Street Public Works Department Conference Room 4� Foundation Workshop Meeting Minutes July 20th, 2004 MEMBERS PRESENT: Bryant Slimp and John Ayres. MEMBERS ABSENT: David Flame, Dr. Peter Benjamin, J. Dennis Powers, Darryl Friday, Brian Hoogendam,Muddy McDaniel and Kevin McMahon. COUNCIL LIASION: Mike Woods, absent. STAFF PRESENT: Annette Arriaga,Dennis Mack and Jim Dougherty. GUESTS PRESENT: Craig Hughes, David Eastwood P.E., Les Albin, Marie J. Starich, P.E., Martin Gonzales,Michael Skoller P.E. and Robert Riquelmy. [Call to Order.] With a quorum,present Bryant Slimp called the meeting to order at 6:10 p.m. 1. Foundations. Mr. David Eastwood, P.E. went over his Recommended Scope of Geotechnical Engineering Services for the City of West University, Dated May 2004. He stated that he wants to take foundation requirements a step further and better the quality assurance for foundations. The estimated cost that he has indicated in his Recommended Scope would be $1,200. dollars. Marie Starich P.E.,Michael Skoller P.E., and David Eastwood P.E., discussed the differences between the different types of quality control and testing and if certain tests would be required and necessary. After lengthy discussion David Eastwood would put in minimum requirements and be more prescriptive in his next report. David Eastwood would make modification to his draft and e-mail the changes to staff to distribute to BSC. Dennis Mack stated that he wanted to put in some accreditation criteria into the ordinance language, that the City draft would draft an official . document requiring the engineer stamp and sign it making the engineer responsible for the foundation work. Jim Dougherty stated that these two additions would be wise. Discussion continued on who is responsible during the whole or part of the pour. Marie Starich P.E., and Michael Skoller P.E., continued on what steps are followed and who is responsible,for what at the job site,the Geotech or the Engineer. John Ayres agreed that there are different contracts going on with the builder or owner, and several different people involved. Mr. Ayres stated that we want to keep the foundation horror stories from happening,that we want to make sure that the engineers are doing their jobs and that the foundation committee needs to put in some meaningful requirements. The workshop committee agreed. Les Albin stated that the city needs three things to make this work. 1) Set a standard that everyone has to follow. 2)A list of who is responsible for what.3) The City has to know what is going on and to make sure the right people are on site. Marie Starich P.E., and Michael Skoller P.E., continued to discuss the different types of foundations designs, observations and testing. They continued to discuss what is required from the pier layout to the slab and grade beams. Dennis Mack and Jim Dougherty indicated that they would come up with a certification/document that the City could require the engineer to sign. Jim Dougherty stated that he would make the changes and work in the modifications. [Adjournment.] Meeting adjourned at 8:15 p.m. r • Building and Standards Commission Meeting Minutes July 20th,2004 Page 2of 2 PASSED THIS DAY OF , 2004. Bryant S limp, Chairman ATTEST: Ms. Annette R. Arriaga Development Services Secretary 4 City of West Univer it y Place A Neighborhood City 'r Recycled Paper Building & Standards Commission 64 3826 Amherst Street Room om P Public Works Department Conference o Workshop Meeting Minutes July 27th, 2004 MEMBERS PRESENT: Bryant Slimp and John Ayres. STAFF PRESENT: Annette Arriaga, Dennis Mack and Jim Dougherty. [Call to Order.] Bryant Slimp called the meeting to order at 10:20 a.m. Foundations. The workshop goal is to gather and incorporate the input from the July 20th workshop on foundations and the BSC meeting of July ls`. Bryant Slimp asked for Jim Dougherty to go over the latest version on the Foundation Revisions, Dated June 28, 2004. The workshop committee agreed to make several changes to the draft. Jim Dougherty to add in, "The State of Texas"for clarification under section(a.). He will also add in a definition for RLPE, and for a RLGE. Both professions would require at least $500,000 in errors and omissions insurance to do foundation work in this ordinance. The foundation workshop committee discussed the Geotechnical work and Laboratory testing. They agreed that the engineers should choose which Geotechnical firm and soils lab to do the work. The engineer would have responsibility for the foundation and soils work of both Geotechnical and the laboratory used on a site. The RLPE would have to sign the foundation certification report document before construction could proceed. The report must cover all testing, site elevations and all must meet applicable criteria. Dennis Mack and the committee agreed to add that the engineer of record has to pick or concur with the use of a Geotechnical firm and the laboratory used. The committee requested that Dennis Mack and Jim Dougherty construct the foundation certification letter that will be used by the engineer of record to prevent language that would remove or shift responsibility of the performance of the foundation. The committee decided that if the builder used a low risk slab (types 1 or 2 in Foundations,Basic Type, section (d)) that the builder could proceed with a lower cost engineering and Geotechnical option. If the foundation were types 1 or 2,the soils report would cover the work required to allow the structural engineer to design the piers. If the builder opted to use a foundation with a higher risk of failure (types 3 or 10 in Foundations, Basic Type, section(d))then a full and rigorous soils report would be required, that the soils at the site must be rendered to a PVR of less than one inch, and that the structural engineer would have to design a foundation that would not fail. Jim Dougherty stated that he would give the builder an option. The option to either go with a higher cost foundation or choose a low risk foundation. You would have the option to go with either (1) or option (2). Jin Dougherty to add in the correct wording. The workshop committee discussed David Eastwood's "Recommended Scope of Geotechnical Engineering Services for the City of West University Place", Updated 07-27-04. Bryant Slimp stated that he would get with Marie J. Starich, and ask her for her opinion on the laboratory testing and engineering reports that he has listed as requirements as well as her comments on the quality control and testing. 3300 University Boulevard West University Place, Texas 77005 2899 7134.6680444! rxw. leS u pro I 4 Building and Standards Commission Meeting Minutes July 27th,2004 Page 2of 2 Bryant Slimp also referred to the written comments of Mr. Ron Kelm, P.E., titled "Draft West U Foundation Ordinance", Dated 06-26-04. The committee reviewed and discussed his comments on foundation designs, construction and requirements and incorporated some of his ideas. Jim Dougherty includes the concepts and information into the foundation revisions. Jim Dougherty would make changes and modification and have them ready for the next scheduled BSC meeting. Jim Dougherty would be out of town and he hopes to have this ready as soon as possible. [Adjournment.] Meeting adjourned at 12:30 p.m. PASSED THIS DAY OF ,2004. Bryant Slimp, Chairman ATTEST: Ms. Annette R.Arriaga Development Services Secretary