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HomeMy WebLinkAbout02032005 BSC Agenda Item 2 Cit y of West University Place A Neighborhood City Workshop 1 Recycled Paper Building & Standards Commission 3826 Amherst Street,In the Public Works Building, Located in the Public Conference Room, 40A) West University Place,TX. 77005 Meeting Minutes December 13th, 2004 MEMBERS PRESENT: Bryant Slimp and J. Denis Powers. MEMBERS ABSENT: None. COUNCIL LIASION: None. STAFF PRESENT: Annette Arriaga,Dennis Mack and Jim Dougherty. GUESTS PRESENT: None. [Call to Order.] With a quorum, present Bryant Slimp called the meeting to order at 2:35 p.m. 1. Structural. Bryant Slimp stated that the Foundation Ordinance is finished and BSC would be discussing the structural framing phase of construction. Dennis Mack stated that the framing portion of this might be difficult. Especially if we require the structural engineer to certify there work. The Engineers can not be present for the entire project and they will not be able to see every fastener that is done on a project. Jim Dougherty also stated that the framing phase of the project is all over the place and each section is important. BSC workshop wants to carry the structural load through to the foundation. They discussed major beams must be in compression and that must have direct and adequate support underneath. They discussed the load to grade beams and other solid footings and that they must have equivalent cross section areas equal to or greater than the cross sectional areas of the beams,joists, rafters etc. They also talked about the high grade and lower grade hangers. Dennis Mack stated that we could request that any joist hangers be installed to the manufacture's plans and specifications. He continued to add that we could also require an"as built" certificate to certify that everything was installed accordingly and meets all plans and specifications. Jim Dougherty agreed and he added that we could make the engineer certify that everything meets all of the design criteria. Jim Dougherty will put wording in the draft ordinance in regards to the observation and certifications requirements. He would also add some structural aspects of the building and put in specific items about load bearing beams, beams that support other beams, cross section of the columns and posts, and that that the engineer has to prove that load bearing beams are properly supported by the foundation. Jim Doughty will draft up all of the information discussed and Bryant Slimp stated that an additional structural workshop would be needed to go over all of the suggestions and comments. [Adjournment.] Meeting adjourned at 3:45 p.m. PASSED THIS DAY OF , 2004. Bryant Slimp, Chairman ATTEST: Ms.Annette R. Arriaga Development Services Secretary 3800 University Boulevard • West University Place, Texas 77005 2899 • 713.668.4441 • www.westu.org City of West University Place A Neighborhood City Workshop L.` Recycled Paper Building & Standards Commission 3826 Amherst Street,In the Public Works Building, Located in the Public Conference Room, West University Place, TX. 77005 4t,Meeting Minutes January 10th, 2005 MEMBERS PRESENT: Bryant Slimp, John Ayres and J. Denis Powers. MEMBERS ABSENT: None. COUNCIL LIASION: None. STAFF PRESENT: Annette Arriaga, Dennis Mack and Jim Dougherty. GUESTS PRESENT: None. [Call to Order.] With a quorum, present Bryant Slimp called the meeting to order at 2:30 p.m. 1. Base Flood Elevations. Not discussed. 2. Structural. Workshop referred to the draft amendment of the Standard Codes Schedule regarding structural framing dated 01-06-05. The structural workshop agreed to omit the A2LA Lab requirements. Jim Dougherty stated that was put in just in case someone needed to use a lab that was referenced. The workshop discussed structural framing and what the code should include for new buildings or additions to existing buildings. Jim Dougherty stated that the word Structural is a broad definition and it needs to be clarified. Decks were discussed. Decks less than three feet from grade are not problems and do not need structural design, however, second floor decks can be very dangerous and should require structural design. The workshop discussed other structures, which can include things like flagpoles, and masonry fences. Dennis Mack stated that he wouldn't have a problem with requiring masonry fences to be engineered. John Ayres asked about the codes in general all ready being defined then why are we asking for other requirements. He stated that the BSC does not want to tell engineers to how to do their job or tell them how to do engineering. Dennis Mack stated that the International Building Codes and the International Residential Codes only set minimum standards, and that this BSC is taking it a step further than what the building codes allow. We want to set a minimum design criteria for the engineers. Jim Dougherty stated, and the workshop participants agreed that the plans must meet specifications and meet criteria as to scope, content and form etc. Bryant Slimp talked about large horizontal beams(beams that support other beams and joists), how they must carry the load to the vertical studs to the foundation and that they should meet certain criteria. Dennis Mack gave examples of each. He stated that the supporting vertical studs must have a width equal to the width of the beam being supported. For example: If you have a 4 x 10-inch beam then the support must be at least 4 inches. This could be accomplished by using 2 2x4s properly joined together. Dennis Mack added that all headers must have two 2X4's or better or at each end or each point. The workshop discussed each vertical element bearing the load of beams and or similar elements and must meet all criteria specified. (See section b. Additional Regulations.) They continued to discuss trusses and Dennis Mack stated that as long as it is installed to the manufactures plans, design and specifications he did not have a problem with requiring the 3800 University Boulevard • West University Place, Texas 77005-2899 • 713.668.4441 • www.westu.org Building and Standards Commission Meeting Minutes January 10`x',2005 1 Page 2of 2 design engineer to be responsible for that. The workshop continued to discuss the beams, joists,rafters and similar hangers or similar structural connectors must be installed to manufacturer's recommendations. Workshop committee agreed that the practice of toe nailing as a support methods for any beams should not be allowed. Jim Dougherty stated that he would make changes and modifications and have the draft ready before the next scheduled BSC meeting. [Adjournment.] Meeting adjourned at 4:20 p.m. PASSED THIS DAY OF , 2004. Bryant Slimp, Chairman ATTEST: Ms. Annette R. Arriaga Development Services Secretary