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Meeting Minutes
May 5th, 2005
MEMBERS PRESENT: Bryant Slimp, J. Denis Powers, Brian Hoogendam and Muddy
McDaniel.
MEMBERS ABSENT: David Flame,Dr. Peter Benjamin,and Kevin McMahon.
COUNCIL LIASION: Mike Woods(Absent).
STAFF PRESENT: Annette Arriaga and Nes Tesno,
GUESTS PRESENT: Robert Riquelmy. Add Les Albins
[Call to Order.] With a quorum,present Bryant Slimp called the meeting to order at 6:05 p.m.
1. Notices, Rules, Etc. Bryant Slimp stated that the BSC voting alternate would be Muddy
McDaniel. Bryant Slimp requested for J. Denis Powers to conduct the BSC meeting due to the
loss of his voice.
2. Matters Relating to the Building and Standards Commission Recommendations and Status
Report. A) Matters relating to Brian Hoogendam. J. Denis Powers informed the BSC that Brian
Hoogendam had been appointed to fill the vacant Position 3 on the Building and Standards
Commission. BSC congratulated Brian Hoogendam with a warm welcome of applause. B)
Matter relating to Annette Arriaga. J. Denis Powers informed the BSC that the BSC secretary,
Annette Arriaga was leaving her position with West University Place and going to work for Piney
Point Villages. The commission expressed their sadness and wished her the best of luck in her
new position. C) Matters relating to Nes Tesno. J. Denis Powers stated that Nes Tesno would be
the acting building official until the City hires an CBO. Nes Tesno stated that she and Ron
Wicker have been going through applications and have in fact interviewed several people all
ready. She informed the BSC that there have been a few good candidates. They would be calling
these candidates again and setting up meetings for second interviews. D) Update on the draft
amendment of the Standard Codes Schedule regarding foundations dated 03-16-05. J. Denis •
Powers stated that the foundation draft amendment passed 4-0 on May 2"d, 2005. This was the
second official reading by city council. Nes Tesno stated that this foundation amendment would
be effective May 27`h, 2005.
3. Meeting Minutes. Muddy McDaniel made a motion first to approve the meeting minutes from
the April 7`h, 2005 BSC meeting. Brian Hoogendam seconds the motion. AYES: Bryant Slimp, J.
Denis Powers, Brian Hoogendam and Muddy McDaniel. NOES: None. ABSTAIN: None.
Motion passed. Meeting minutes approved.
4. Structural. Brian Hoogendam asked Les Albin how much would it cost for an engineer to go out
and look at a project that for a homeowner specifically to do the structural framing? Les Albin
stated that for an engineer to go out to a particular job site can vary but it probably would cost
around $100 to $150 per hour or per inspection and depending on extent of the job. Brian
Hoogendam stated that as a homeowner, that he can't do any of this himself? Bryant Slimp stated
that under the latest structural draft, item d. Special Exceptions, the BSC could issue special
exceptions for this. Bryant Slimp stated that this would be discussed further in workshop.
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Bryant Slimp requested for BSC to set up a workshop to discuss and review the latest version of •
the draft amendment of the Standard Code Schedule regarding structural framing and similar
elements, revised 03-16-05. Bryant Slimp requested for the workshop to be set after five o'clock
and preferably not on Wednesdays. Staff is to come up with two dates. Item tabled.Item to be put
back on next month's agenda.No motion made.
5. Base Flood Elevations. Bryant Slimp stated the City of Bellaire has set the floor of a new house
at one foot above base flood elevation per the recommendation of Claunch & Miller. Nes Tesno
stated that she could talk to Ron Wicker and see if they can get someone from Claunch & Miller
to talk to BSC on a base flood elevation for West University.Nes Tesno continued to add that Jim
Dougherty currently has a draft ordinance that FEMA sends us.Nes Tesno also mentioned that the
new CBO would probably be a flood plain administrator and would be fairly knowledgeable in
that area. J. Denis Powers briefly discussed and updated BSC on the future city drainage projects
involving Poor Farm Ditch and the small bridge. He stated that they are just waiting on city
funding to start the project. Item tabled. Item to be put back on next months agenda. No motion
made.
[Adjournment.] Muddy McDaniel made a motion first to adjourn. Brian Hoogendam seconds the
motion to adjourn. AYES: Bryant Slimp, J. Denis Powers, Muddy McDaniel and Brian
Hoogendam. NOES:None.ABSTAIN:None. Meeting adjourned at 6:45 p.m.
PASSED THIS DAY OF ,2005.
Bryant S limp, Chairman
ATTEST:
Ms. Annette R. Arriaga Development Services Secretary
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Meeting Minutes
May 17, 2005
MEMBERS PRESENT: Bryant Slimp, J. Denis Powers, Muddy McDaniel
(arriving late)
MEMBERS ABSENT: David Flame, Dr. Peter Benjamin, Brian
Hoogendam, Muddy McDaniel, Kevin McMahon,
Mike Woods
STAFF PRESENT: Neslihan Tesno, Josie Orosco
GUEST PRESENT: Daniel Gay, Mike Talianchich, P.E., Robert
Riquelmy, Michael Skoller, P.E., Jack Spivey, Brad
Dougherty, Arriving late Ron Kelm, P.E. and Les
Albin
[Call to Order] Bryant Slimp called the meeting to order at 5:38 p.m.
1. Structural Bryant Slimp stated that this is a workshop meeting to discuss the
structural ordinance that the BSC is currently drafting. Mr. Slimp asked if
everyone was signed in and asked everyone to introduce them-selves. Mr. Slimp
asked if everyone had received a latest copy of the foundation ordinance. Michael
Skoller asked if he could send the new ordinance out to structural engineers in the
FPA. Nes Tesno stated that the strike out version that is signed by City Council is
the approved ordinance. The ordinance would not go into affect until May 27,
2005.
Bryant Slimp wanted to discuss what is needed to be included to make the draft
structural code effective and workable and to mandate who was responsible to •
make structures that are being built in the City safe and lasting. Bryant Slimp
stated that some of the things that he is concerned about are the pre-manufactured
trusses for 2nd floor and 3rd floor and for premanufactured roof trusses. Items
discussed in detail that needed to be regulated are as follows:
o Crawl Spaces
o Handrails
o Strapping
o Sheer Walls
o Blocking and Nailing
o Floor/Attic Trusses and the certifications of the trusses
o Floor Joists
o Steel Frames
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o Welding and Bolts
Les Albin asked if the board would require that all house construction to use Y2"
plywood sheathing. Daniel Gay stated that if the sheathing was blocked and
nailed correctly that this would work well, but it would cost money. Michael
Talianchich stated he would not mind the sheathing. Michael Skoller stated he
uses V2 inch sheathing on houses that are less than$150,000.
Les Albin stated that he thinks what the board is trying to do is to establish the
minimums; there are likely things that are going to be required in addition to that
and those items need to be determined by the structural engineers.
Michael Skoller stated that in his opinion,the Engineer of Record should review
the trusses, the layout plan and the loads, not just an engineer working at the truss
fabrication company. Daniel Gay stated he would rather submit a letter stating
what design work that he has reviewed,to identify the particular drawings
specific for the house being built at the specific address. Bryant Slimp asked who
is certifying or stamping/sealing the plans that come in for review by the City, the
software engineer or Engineer or Record. Michael Skoller answered that as of this
time, it is by either one, but it should be stamped by the designer. Bryant Slimp
asked if there was any credentials on truss manufacturers, like the A2LA labs that
do the geo-technical work. Michael Skoller stated that there are some
specifications that the engineer has to design.
Daniel Gay proposed that the structural engineer that designed structure be, the
engineer,who goes out to inspect the work,not a third party. Michael Skoller
stated he would not be willing to do inspection work, and that it would be very
expensive. Bryant Slimp read the definition from the new foundation ordinance
handout that was provided at the beginning of the meeting as to who would be
allowed to do the inspection work. Bryant Slimp also stated that he would prefer
to use language from the new foundation code regarding inspection by a person
under the direct supervision of the RLPE.
Michael Skoller stated that he thought it would be good if they did not allow
utility grade lumber for any permanent structural member of a house. It could
however be used for temporary bracing, etc. Les Albin stated that utility grade
lumber is routinely used in West University right now. The only way for it not to
be used is to disallow it.
Brad Dougherty stated that he would provide the information regarding what is
required for structural steel certification. Michael Skoller stated that each welder
should be certified in the type of welding that he is performing. Bryant Slimp
stated that they should make it a requirement on the checklist that each welder
provide a copy of their certification., any registration number, and the expiration
date. Brad Dougherty will provide information on the welder certifications.
Michael Talianchich stated that he thought it would be good if they considered
eliminating gang nails currently used on pre-fabricated trusses all together. Bryant
Slimp stated that the BSC can not eliminate a normal and accepted construction
method unless they have a much better and accepted method
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Mr. Talianchich would like to address the moisture caused problems on structural
members in the crawl spaces of a house.
Michael Skoller suggested that the BSC require the calculations for crawl spaces
ventilation, including the calculations indicating the gross and net air flow
openings venting the crawl spaces, and that the structural fasteners for crawl
spaces be designed for moist areas.
Bryant Slimp asked the guest to email any thoughts, links to existing codes,
and/or checklists that they had to Nes Tesno.
[Adjournment] Meeting adjourned at 7:00 p.m.
PASSED THIS DAY OF , 2005
Bryant Slimp, Chairman
ATTEST:
Ms. Josie M. Orosco, Development Services Secretary