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City of West University Place
A Neighborhood City
Recycled Paper Building & Standards Commission
Bill Watson Conference Room,Located at 3800 University Blvd,
West University Place, TX. 77005
Meeting Minutes
March 3rd, 2005
MEMBERS PRESENT: Bryant Slimp, David Flame, John Ayres, J. Denis Powers, Brian
Hoogendam,Muddy McDaniel and Kevin McMahon.
MEMBERS ABSENT: Dr.Peter Benjamin.
COUNCIL LIASION: Mike Woods(arrived at 6:15 p.m.)
STAFF PRESENT: Annette Arriaga, Dennis Mack, Michael Ross, Ron Wicker, and Jim
Dougherty.
GUESTS PRESENT: Robert Riquelmy, Gail Rosenthal, Mike Reed, Robert Covington, Mina
Covington, Ron Simon, Georgianna Sadler, Lou Barragan and Robert
Stanton.
[Call to Order.] With a quorum,present Bryant Slimp called the meeting to order at 6:05 p.m.
1. Notices, Rules, Etc. Bryant Slimp stated that the BSC voting alternate would be Brian
Hoogendam.
2. Meeting Minutes. John Ayres made a motion first to approve the meeting minutes from the
February 3`d, 2005 BSC meeting.J. Denis Powers seconds the motion.
AYES: Bryant Slimp, David Flame, John Ayres, J. Denis Powers and Brian Hoogendam.
NOES: None.ABSTAIN:None.Motion passed.Meeting Minutes Approved.
3. Accident Review Hearing. Bryant Slimp stated that this meeting is an informal accident review
hearing regarding the house fire at 2612 Werlein Street The BSC is conducting the accident
review hearing at the request of City Staff. Bryant Slimp indicated that BSC has certain authority
as defined by the State and the City Charter. The BSC only acts regarding code violations after the
City Staff follows certain rules and procedures as outlined under code Chapter 6 in the Charter
and Ordinances of West University Place.
Bryant Slimp stated that this hearing is not a judicial proceeding, the BSC is not a court of law,
and the BSC does not have the authority of the courts system on civil matters. The BSC has four
types of jurisdiction.The BSC can:
❑ Review administrative actions by reviewing actions by the Chief Building Official
where it may affirm, reverse, modify or remand a decision of the Chief Building
Official, on appeals by an applicant.
❑ Have quasijudicial enforcement-on such code issues presented to it by the Chief
Building Official.
❑ Issue variances-to certain codes as requested by a petitioner where the Chief Building
Official cannot deviate from the code, and the petitioner meets specific criteria.
❑ Issue advisory opinions-such as to study certain codes gather input from various
parties, generate a proposed change and recommend these specific changes to a code to
the City Council for adoption.
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Bryant Slimp asked that all guests please make all comments to the Chair and direct all questions
to the Chair. He asked that an air of civility be maintained. Each speaker will be limited to five
minutes.
❑ The Recoding secretary will inform us at the 4 %2 minute mark.
❑ The recoding secretary will inform us when the time limit has been reached.
❑ At that point,the Chair will ask the speaker to stop.
Bryant Slimp requested that each speaker state the facts and he reminded the guests present that
the meeting is being recorded electronically and therefore required that before speaking each
person state his or her name, state their address if a West University citizen, or state their position
and affiliation. The speaking time would start after their introduction.
Bryant Slimp requested that City Staff state the facts and the results of their investigation.
Dennis Mack stated that on January 17th, 2005 The West University Place fire department reported
a structure fire at 2612 Werlein Street. The Fire Marshall reported that a demolition backhoe crew
had ruptured a natural gas line in the rear of the house causing two breaks in the gas line. Dennis
Mack stated that Al Collins,the Fire Marshall for West University Place stated in the report that
the cause of fire was an accident.
Bryant Slimp asked if there were any other reports pertaining to the house fires. Dennis Mack
stated that this was the only report filed by the West University Place fire department.Dennis
Mack put in a formal request for the accident review hearing.
Bryant Slimp asked to hear the statements by the homeowners and the residents of 2612 Werlein
Street.
Lou Barragan addressed the board. Mr. Lou Barragan the resident at 2612 Werlein Street stated
that he was at home taking care of his grandson. It was a holiday and all of a sudden he heard an
explosion. His wife ran to the front of the house and stated fire,fire and continued to stay that
there was a fire in the back of the house and they immediate they called the fire department. Lou
Barragan stated that once he was outside he spoke to the resident Mrs. Gail Rosenthal and she said
that she had called the fire department twice.Mr. Lou Barragan stated he was concerned with his
house. He could here electric wires popping. Everyone was excited.The fire was going toward the
garage near the next-door neighbor. Mr. Lou Barragan did indicate that nobody had notified him.
Mr. Barragan stated that someone called and spoke to his daughter,but he did not know who it
was. He stated that someone tried calling him last Thursday but that was it. He then stated
"Usually, someone who have contacted me or put in a hotel but nobody has called or contacted me
from JTB services or Covington Builders".
Bryant Slimp extended his sympathies for all that has happened to Mr. Barragan and his family
and to please accept the BSC's condolences. He thanked Mr. Lou Barragan for speaking to the
BSC.
Bryant Slimp requested for the next speaker from any other affected parties to please approach the
chair.
Gail Rosenthal stated that she is the resident at 2611 Cason Street. She stated that no one has
recognized that she had a great deal of damage to her garage. Her property is as much involved as
her neighbor at 2612 Werlein. The gas line runs in the back of her house. She was upstairs
working on her computer and on the phone when she heard a loud explosion,then all of a sudden
her phone went dead. She saw a wall of fire. She stated that nobody knocked on her door and
nobody notified her. She stated that she ran out side and took her husband's car out of the garage,
afraid that it might be damaged. She stated that the fire department did not come for 15 to 20
minutes. Mrs. Rosenthal stated that her house and property were very much involved as the house
on Werlein Street. She is hoping to save a live oak tree but, she doesn't know if she will be able
too due to the fire. She stated that she had a significant amount of damage to her garage. Luckily,
she stated that she has insurance and she doesn't have somebody fighting for her. She did hear
from the adjusters and Robert Covington. They knocked on her back door and left their cards. But,
two days later Robert Covington was already back working and had the new house framed. She
stated that they were conducting business as usual without considering the lives that had been
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destroyed. Centerpoint did end up doing some more digging after the fact and they ended up
digging into her tree's roots.
Bryant Slimp extended his sympathies and wanted Mrs. Gail Rosenthal to accept the BSC
member's condolences.
Bryant Slimp requested to hear from the contractors and any subcontractors involved.
Mr. Robert W. Covington,who lives at 3724 Darcus in Southside Place,stated that he has lived in
West University Place from time to time and he does conduct a lot of business here in West
University Place. Bryant Slimp requested that he tell his side of the story. Mr. Robert Covington
stated that he apologized for Mr. Barragan's and Mrs.Rosenthal's losses. He continued to add that
he was not there at the time of the accident and that he found out what happened after the fact. He
stressed that everyone knows more about this than he does. The contractor that he hired had a
permit to do demolish the house. He stated that it was an accident but not an accident that he
committed. He was not out there and he did not see what happened. He did read the fire report and
he stated that it does make sense that a gas line had been broken and that a fire source ignited the
escaping gas. He believes that JTB's insurance is taking care of it and handling the damage. He
also stated that JTB has already handled another claims. Mr. Covington repeated that he was not
out there at the time of the fire. Bryant Slimp thanked Mr. Covington.
Bryant Slimp requested for any one else who wished to speak,especially anyone representing
JTB?No one from JTB was present.
Bryant opened the floor for questions, comments and general discussions from the BSC.
John Ayres asked if 1.)there was any communication with JTB with Centerpoint, and 2.) is it
customary for the contractor, such as JTB to check with utilities, and fiber optic line owners to
make sure that Centerpoint has cut off the gas lines?Dennis Mack stated that JTB met all of our
current requirements and ordinances pertaining to the disconnect and removing the meter.Kevin
McMahon asked Dennis Mack if JTB or Centerpoint marked the gas line?Dennis Mack stated that
he personally did not see them mark the line. Bryant Slimp asked if was any communication with
Centerpoint on the exact gas line locations. Bryant Slimp asked if the contractor hit a riser. Dennis
Mack confirmed that a riser was hit. Denis Powers asked if the riser is fenced off?Dennis Mack
stated that the risers are not fenced off, but,that may be something that we can look at. David 1
Flame thanked the permitee for coming and asked what efforts have been made and attempts that
have been made from the contractors? And David Flame was curious to know who is the ultimate
responsible party?David Flame hadn't personally witnessed the incident first hand and he wants to
know if the contractor or people involved had made any efforts to understand the events of what
had happened?Dennis Mack stated that David Flame would have to ask the contractor. JTB was ,
not present. Muddy McDaniel asked if the riser is in the city easement?Dennis Mack stated that
the riser was in the easement.
Bryant Slimp summarized that 1.)the fire had been ruled accidental, by the West University Place,
Fire Marshall,Al Collins,2.)the BSC does not have any administrative actions brought before it
by the Chief Building Official, 3.)the BSC has no requests by the City Staff to enter into a
quasijudicial enforcement, and 4.)there are no requests being made to the BSC for variances.
Bryant Slimp stated that he believes he speaks for the BSC by saying to the residents of 2612
Werlein that we as fellow citizens of West University, extend our heartfelt sympathies to you for
all of your losses and all of the problems that have followed.
Bryant Slimp asked if there was any motion from the BSC regarding this matter?
Brian Hoogendam made a motion:
I move that, until all the issues have been resolved at 2612 Werlein and 2611 Cason that we as a
group and as a body should table further discussions until we know what really happened
throughout the whole situation and at that time we can look at the policies and procedures that are
in place and see what our board has jurisdiction over so that we can study and go from there.
Brian Hoogendam first to approve the motion. John Ayres seconds the motion. AYES: Bryant ..
Slimp, David Flame, John Ayres, J. Denis Powers and Brian Hoogendam. NOES: None.
ABSTAIN:None.Motion passed.
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The Accident Review Hearing ended at 6:30 p.m.
4. Matters Relating to the Building and Standards Commission Recommendations and Status
Report. A)Update on the draft amendments of the Standard Code Schedule regarding
foundations. B)Update on the foundation workshop with City Council dated February 28th, 2005.
Dennis Mack stated that A and B are one in the same. Dennis Mack and Bryant Slimp went to
council with the foundation draft and council feels like the one inch PVR needs to be examined
further and needs to be studied. Bryant Slimp asked that one more workshop be scheduled to
resolve the issues that were brought forth by council. C)ZPC update on a proposal to amend the
zoning ordinance relating to old-stock housing. Brian Hoogendam referred to the hand out that
was given to BSC. Exhibit A,Zoning&Planning Commission, Dated January 131h,2005.
Amendments relating to"old stock housing,"definitions. Brian Hoogendam stated that he was
pleased to see these recommendations and thinks that this is a really good thing.He was surprised
that it went fairly quickly. Brian Hoogendam mentioned that after several workshops and meeting
with ZPC that he felt that this was a step in a good direction for the future growth for West
University Place. ZBA to consider protection or preservation of OSH and for ZBA to allow
special exceptions.
5. Base Flood Elevation. Bryant S limp stated that he was hoping to have another workshop on base
flood elevations. Dennis Mack brought the proposed and current FEMA flood maps. BSC
reviewed the maps. Dennis Mack stated that FEMA requires to be at or above the base flood
elevation. The BSC reviewed the maps. The decision to build structures at or above the BFE is at
the City's discretion. The definition of the elevation above the BFE is measured to the elevation of
the surface of the finished floor. Bryant Slimp asked in which direction did the city staff want to
go?Dennis Mack stated that the city had to adopt a flood plain ordinance. David Flame stated that
the city has had general discussion on the aesthetics of the community. David Flame asked if it
would change a great deal?Dennis Mack stated that it would. Dennis Mack stated that if you don't
change the current ordinances, you would have various height differences. Some lots may be
higher than the others. FEMA will require you to be at or above the BFE,we as a city will need to
decide how much height above the BFE that we build. Dennis Mack stated that we have to adopt N
a flood plain ordinance and we could go stricter. Brian Hoogendam asked if this would impact
remodels. Dennis Mack stated that it would. David Flame asked if it would basically effect
additions.Dennis Mack stated yes, it would. J.Denis Powers showed pictures that he brought
showing the higher foundations,built up compared to the old. Dennis Mack stated that we would
have to put on certain criteria to accommodate the remodels, additions etc. Jim Dougherty will
check on the FEMA deadline dates.He did state that we do currently have an ordinance in place.
The"flood way" is in the ordinance, and is being added to the flood maps. Anyone in the flood
way will eventually have to adopt with some potential changes. BSC discussed the costs and
insurance variations.
Jim Dougherty recommended that the proposed amendments be adopted all at the same time.
John Ayres stated that another workshop would be good. BSC agreed.
Item tabled.No motion made.
6. Structural. David Flame discussed the previous planning workshop that was February 9th, 2005.
He gave a quick over view on the workshop's future direction on codes and ordinances. He stated
that everyone agreed that we needed to prioritize. The workshop agreed on three main factors. 1)
A good engineering job, an engineered structural plan. 2)Checks and balances, liability coverage
of the professional that provide that structural plan, and 3)Accountability, site inspection upon
completion. He felt that if the template works for foundations then the ordinance template for
structures should follow. Bryant Slimp stated a desire to stay on a structural ordinance for now and
then look next at the rot resistant materials. David Flame stated that everyone agreed that safety
and the structural integrity was the biggest concern.Bryant Slimp felt that another structural
workshop should be set. Bryant Slimp asked for Jim Dougherty to write up a structural draft for
the next scheduled BSC meeting. Item tabled.No motion made.
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[Adjournment.] David Flame made a motion first to adjourn. John Ayres seconds the motion to
adjourn. AYES: Bryant Slimp, David Flame, John Ayres, J. Denis Powers and Muddy McDaniel.
NOES:None. ABSTAIN:None.Meeting adjourned at 7:35 p.m.
PASSED THIS DAY OF ,2005.
Bryant Slimp, Chairman
ATTEST:
Ms. Annette R.Arriaga Development Services Secretary