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Building & Standards Commission
3826 Amherst, In the Public Works Building,
Located in the Public Works Conference Room,
West University Place, Texas 77005
Meeting Minutes
May 17, 2005
MEMBERS PRESENT: Bryant Slimp, J. Denis Powers, Muddy McDaniel
(arriving late)
MEMBERS ABSENT: David Flame, Dr. Peter Benjamin, Brian
Hoogendam, Muddy McDaniel, Kevin McMahon,
Mike Woods
STAFF PRESENT: Neslihan Tesno, Josie Orosco
GUEST PRESENT: Daniel Gay, Mike Talianchich, P.E., Robert
Riquelmy, Michael Skoller, P.E., Jack Spivey, Brad
Dougherty, Arriving late Ron Kelm, P.E. and Les
Albin
[Call to Order] Bryant Slimp called the meeting to order at 5:38 p.m.
1. Structural Bryant Slimp stated that this is a workshop meeting to discuss the
structural ordinance that the BSC is currently drafting. Mr. Slimp asked if
everyone was signed in and asked everyone to introduce them-selves. Mr. Slimp
asked if everyone had received a latest copy of the foundation ordinance. Michael
Skoller asked if he could send the new ordinance out to structural engineers in the
FPA. Nes Tesno stated that the strike out version that is signed by City Council is
the approved ordinance. The ordinance would not go into affect until May 27,
2005.
Bryant Slimp wanted to discuss what is needed to be included to make the draft
structural code effective and workable and to mandate who was responsible to
make structures that are being built in the City safe and lasting. Bryant Slimp
stated that some of the things that he is concerned about are the pre-manufactured
trusses for 2nd floor and 3rd floor and for premanufactured roof trusses. Items
discussed in detail that needed to be regulated are as follows:
o Crawl Spaces
o Handrails
o Strapping
o Sheer Walls
o Blocking and Nailing
o Floor/Attic Trusses and the certifications of the trusses
o Floor Joists
o Steel Frames
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o Welding and Bolts
Les Albin asked if the board would require that all house construction to use %2"
plywood sheathing. Daniel Gay stated that if the sheathing was blocked and
nailed correctly that this would work well, but it would cost money. Michael
Talianchich stated he would not mind the sheathing. Michael Skoller stated he
uses %2 inch sheathing on houses that are less than $150,000.
Les Albin stated that he thinks what the board is trying to do is to establish the
minimums; there are likely things that are going to be required in addition to that
and those items need to be determined by the structural engineers.
Michael Skoller stated that in his opinion, the Engineer of Record should review
the trusses, the layout plan and the loads, not just an engineer working at the truss
fabrication company. Daniel Gay stated he would rather submit a letter stating
what design work that he has reviewed, to identify the particular drawings
specific for the house being built at the specific address. Bryant Slimp asked who
is certifying or stamping/sealing the plans that come in for review by the City, the a
software engineer or Engineer or Record. Michael Skoller answered that as of this
time, it is by either one, but it should be stamped by the designer. Bryant Slimp
asked if there was any credentials on truss manufacturers, like the A2LA labs that
do the geo-technical work. Michael Skoller stated that there are some
specifications that the engineer has to design.
Daniel Gay proposed that the structural engineer that designed structure be, the
engineer, who goes out to inspect the work, not a third party. Michael Skoller
stated he would not be willing to do inspection work, and that it would be very
expensive. Bryant Slimp read the definition from the new foundation ordinance
handout that was provided at the beginning of the meeting as to who would be
allowed to do the inspection work. Bryant Slimp also stated that he would prefer
to use language from the new foundation code regarding inspection by a person
under the direct supervision of the RLPE.
Michael Skoller stated that he thought it would be good if they did not allow
utility grade lumber for any permanent structural member of a house. It could
however be used for temporary bracing, etc. Les Albin stated that utility grade
lumber is routinely used in West University right now. The only way for it not to
be used is to disallow it.
Brad Dougherty stated that he would provide the information regarding what is
required for structural steel certification. Michael Skoller stated that each welder
should be certified in the type of welding that he is performing. Bryant Slimp
stated that they should make it a requirement on the checklist that each welder
provide a copy of their certification., any registration number, and the expiration
date. Brad Dougherty will provide information on the welder certifications.
Michael Talianchich stated that he thought it would be good if they considered
eliminating gang nails currently used on pre-fabricated trusses all together. Bryant
Slimp stated that the BSC can not eliminate a normal and accepted construction
method unless they have a much better and accepted method
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May 17, 2005
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Mr. Talianchich would like to address the moisture caused problems on structural
members in the crawl spaces of a house.
Michael Skoller suggested that the BSC require the calculations for crawl spaces
ventilation, including the calculations indicating the gross and net air flow
openings venting the crawl spaces, and that the structural fasteners for crawl
spaces be designed for moist areas.
Bryant Slimp asked the guest to email any thoughts, links to existing codes,
and/or checklists that they had to Nes Tesno.
[Adjournment] Meeting adjourned at 7:00 p.m.
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