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Building & Standards Commission
Located in the Bill Watson Conference Room,
3800 University Blvd,
West University Place, Texas 77005
Meeting Minutes
December 6, 2007
MEMBERS PRESENT: Bryant Slimp, Brian Hoogendam, Dr. Peter Benjamin, Dave
Miller, Muddy McDaniel and Frank Griffin
MEMBERS ABSENT: David Flame, J. Denis Powers and Gerry Spedale
STAFF PRESENT: Building Official Sean Landis, Permit Technician Josie
Orosco, James L. Dougherty and Urban Forester Craig Koehl
GUESTS PRESENT: Susan Ramsey, Scott Ramsey, James Miles, Robert Riquelmy and
Les Albin
[Call to Order] Bryant Slimp called the meeting to order at 6:06 p.m.
1. Notices, Rules, Etc. Bryant Slimp welcomed BSC members, visitors and staff members to the
• meeting. Bryant Slimp stated Frank Griffin, Dave Miller and Muddy McDaniel would be the
alternate voting members. BSC members discussed changing the regular scheduled meetings for
January and July 2008 due to the holidays. Dave Miller made a motion to move the January 2,
2008 meeting to January 9, 2008. Dr. Peter Benjamin seconded the motion. AYES: Bryant
Slimp, Brian Hoogendam, Dr. Peter Benjamin, Frank Griffin and Dave Miller. NOES: None.
ABSTAIN: None. Motion passed. Dave Miller made a motion to move the July 3, 2008 meeting
to July 9, 2008. Brian Hoogendam seconded the motion. AYES: Bryant Slimp, Brian
Hoogendam, Dr. Peter Benjamin, Frank Griffin and Dave Miller. NOES: None. ABSTAIN:
None. Motion passed.
2. Meeting Minutes. Dr. Peter Benjamin made a motion to approve the November 1, 2007 minutes
as amended. Dave Miller seconded the motion. AYES: Bryant Slimp, Brian Hoogendam, Dr.
Peter Benjamin, Frank Griffin and Dave Miller. NOES: None. ABSTAIN: None. Meeting
minutes passed.
3. Docket No. 07-03, regarding property at 3781 Georgetown/a variance request by Scott A.
Ramsey for a variance to "Building and Development", Section 18-171, Subsection 1 of
Setbacks, location, etc. BSC moved into hearing mode. Josie M. Orosco stated all notices were
posted. Bryant Slimp briefly discussed the rules of procedures for the hearing. Mr. and Mrs.
Susan Ramsey gave a brief overview of the variance they were requested. Mr. Ramsey stated
they are requesting a variance due to the separate requirement of Section 7-101, Table 7.2, that
the interior side yard setback be greater of 10% of the building site width (as measured from the
• front of the lot), which is 61.45'. Mr. Ramsey stated they are required to have a 6.145' setback
on the east side of the house, despite the fact that most of the lot is significantly less than 61.45'
wide as it necks down to 50' wide at the back of the long along the Auden curve near Rice Blvd.
Which has required them to move the house far enough toward Auden that the pool will only just
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over 5' from the foundation and thus potentially a safety risk. Mr. Ramsey stated that since the
pool will be totally enclosed in a masonry/wood fence on the corner of the property, which faces
Auden, the variance would not have an effect on the City of West University Place or neighbors.
Mr. Ramsey stated that it is possible to comply with the requirement as written at no significant
additional cost. The primary issue is not cost, but safety and risk due to the proximity of the pool
to the house itself. Sean Landis stated that staff has no further direction regarding the variance.
There were questions from BSC regarding overhead power lines, square footage of the house,
size, width, and location of the proposed swimming pool. Dave Miller stated from prior BSC
discussions regarding the edge of the pool being closer than 5' from the property line, that one of
the items discussed was that when a swimming pool fails, it would take out the adjacent property
and it was hard to justify having the pool moved any closer than 5' from the property line. Mr.
Ramsey stated there was about 2' of grass area between the existing fence on the property line
and the sidewalk. Sean Landis the setback requirement is taken from the back wall of the
swimming pool, not the water's edge. Dave Miller made a motion to deliberate. Dr. Peter
Benjamin seconded the motion. AYES: Bryant Slimp, Brian Hoogendam, Dr. Peter Benjamin,
Frank Griffin and Dave Miller. NOES: None. Motion passed. Dave Miller stated an exceptional
hardship was not met. Dr. Peter Benjamin stated the remedy was to make the pool smaller. Dave
Miller stated that the doors could be shifted or relocated. Mrs. Ramsey stated that a larger pool
could be safer. Dave Miller made a motion to deny the variance because it does not meet the
requirements imposed on conditions one and two. Dr. Peter Benjamin seconded the motion.
AYES: Bryant Slimp, Brian Hoogendam, Dr. Peter Benjamin, Frank Griffin and Dave Miller.
• NOES: None.
4. Docket No 07-04, regarding property at 5918 Charlotte/a variance request by James Miles
for a variance to Section 84-4(b) of the city's Code of Ordinance, titled "Tree Permits".
Josie M. Orosco stated all notices were posted. Bryant Slimp briefly discussed the rules of
procedures for the hearing. Mr. James Miles requested he is requesting a variance to the Urban
Forest Enhancement Ordinance (82-4b) in order to remove a crepe myrtle located on the property
at 5918 Charlotte. Mr. Miles stated there is no reasonable or feasible method is available to
comply with the replanting requirement, as the lot is already more then substantially filled with
trees and there is no room for an additional tree. Mr. Lewis's lot, which is 4,550 square feet, is
smaller than the typically lots in the City of West University Place. Mr. Lewis also stated the
crepe myrtle in question poses a security risk by allowing potential intruders to climb and hid in
or behind the tree in close proximity to the front door. Mr. Lewis also stated there is an over
abundance of trees and canopy cover on the lot as it stands now, but does not know the exact
canopy cover area. Craig Koehl stated it would be difficult to calculate the canopy cover area
with just the aerial photographs. Mr. Koehl stated just from walking into the back yard looking
up, you could see very little blue sky due to the canopy coverage. Mr. Lewis stated the tree in
question is about three feet from the front of the house. Bryant Slimp stated that could be a
potential financial hardship coming up. There was brief discussion regarding the quality and
classes of the trees located in the back yard. Dave Miller asked if there was room to plant another
tree in the front yard. Craig Koehl stated there would be room to plant it today, but looking
forward, it would probably be severally suppressed by the two oak trees because it's such a small
• yard. There was discussion regarding the impact of the root system to the foundation. Craig
Koehl stated from a structural standpoint, there would be greater concern from future trunk and
limb growth. The tree will eventually start rubbing against the eves and bricks. Craig Koehl
stated the crepe myrtle tree is protected because it is located in the front yard and is larger than
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6" in diameter. If the tree were located in the back yard, it would not be protected under the
current ordinance. Dave Miller asked if the tree were to be graded using the proposed grading
system, what would the point value be. Craig stated that the tree would probably be a 32 tree.
Brian Hoogendam made a motion that the commission finds that all the circumstances for
granting the variance has been proved and the variance has been granted. Dr. Peter Benjamin
seconded the motion. AYES: Bryant Slimp, Brian Hoogendam, Dr. Peter Benjamin, Frank
Griffin and Dave Miller. NOES: None. Variance granted. Bryant Slimp stated that under the
current ordinance, it is required to be replaced. Craig Koehl stated the tree must be run through
the formula. Craig Koehl stated if the tree rating is 19 points or higher then the tree has to be
replaced. If the tree is below 19 points, it is considered a low value tree and no replacement is
needed. The tree in question has not been run through the current rating plan. Mr. Dougherty
stated the current tree ordinance and tree criteria manual currently allows no replacement
planting inches if the lot in question meets one and a half times the minimum planting standards.
Brian Hoogendam made a motion to reduce the replacement inches to 0" given there is no room
to plant another tree. Dr. Peter Benjamin seconded the motion. AYES: Bryant Slimp, Brian
Hoogendam, Dr. Peter Benjamin, Frank Griffin and Dave Miller. NOES: None. Motion passed.
5. Urban Forest Code Amendments. BSC moved out of hearing mode. James L. Dougherty gave an
overview of the proposed urban forest code amendments to Section 82.3: Tree protection and Section
82.4; Tree permits. Mr. Dougherty stated a major change is that under the proposed ordinance change,
any four inch tree or larger (anywhere in the City) and two inch or larger trees (located in the street area)
• would be protected. The proposed ordinance change would allow issuing officials to insert special
conditions to carry out this chapter into any permit for development or pre-development activity. Sean
Landis stated currently this requirement is done through the tree disposition plan. He asked what would
be the trigger for the City to determine what the special conditions are that would be placed on the permit.
James Dougherty stated those sections have not been written yet, but based upon the discussion and the
outline that Dave Miller has worked up, the intention is to require the tree survey as part of the regular
building site survey. Craig Koehl that each tree survey would still have to be verified to make sure it was
correct and if any tree protection fencing is required. Sean Landis that any sidewalk or driveway issues
could be required to be submitted as part of the building plan and have the issues resolved at that time.
Les Albans asked what distinguishes a low impact from a tree disposition. James L. Dougherty stated it is
a subjective judgment by the Urban Forester. Craig Koehl stated if there is damage to a tree, a tree
disposition is required. If there is not any damage to a tree, then a low impact is required. There was
general discussion regarding the placement and types of replacement trees. The existing ordinance says
anybody who wants to remove a tree; only the owner of the tree can apply to have the tree removed. The
proposed ordinance says any person can apply to have the tree removed, but they have to get the affective
consent of anybody who owns the tree. There was general discussion when a tree permit is required to
required to remove a tree that is four inches or larger and what documents were required before a tree can
be removed. There was also discussion regarding who would have the authority to grant permission to
remove trees that are not hazardous, diseased, damaged, dead or suppressed and when a variance or
special exception would be needed to remove a tree. There was discussion regarding what category
swimming pools and replacement of existing driveways should fall under. The last item discussed was the
possibility of upgrading trees that are Class III or IV trees.
[Adjournment]
Muddy McDaniel made a motion to adjourn. Frank Griffin seconded the motion. AYES: Bryant
Slimp, Brian Hoogendam, Dr. Peter Benjamin, Frank Griffin and Dave Miller. NOES: None.
ABSTAIN: None. Meeting adjourned at 8:22 p.m.
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PASSED THIS(_' AY OF m , 2008
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Bryant Shmp, Chairman \r~
ATTEST: J'Qs1~ 1 Y \ . 0K~~
Ms. Josie M. Orosco, Permit Technician
Attachments: James L. Dougherty's proposed tree amendment
to Sec 82.3; Tree Protection and Sec 82.4 Tree Permits
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Urban Forest Ordinance Update: Sec. 82.3: Tree protection (generally) Draft 12-3-07
Current Proposed
Section 82.3. Tree protection.
(a) General duties. To protect four-inch-or-larger
trees (anywhere in the City) and two-inch-or-larger trees
(located in an street area), all persons have these duties:
Table 82-3. Tree protection, general duties
Get permits. Obtain tree permits as required by this chapter and
comply with them.
Get owner consents. Obtain the effective consent of all persons
it having a property interest in a tree before starting work
that could damage the tree.
Avoid damage. Avoid damaging trees (including critical root
zones) by following the forestry manual and any permit
t ttt~ conditions.
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Reduce damage. Minimize and mitigate tree damage, in
r'e~ e \t°£' T accordance with the forestry manual and any permit
R conditions.
(b) Development, pre- development, etc. For
development or pre-development activity, this chapter and
the forestry manual generally require a tree survey before
issuance of a permit, and they impose protective measures
z (e.g., tree fencing). All issuing officials may insert special
be awf'It conditions to carry out this chapter into any permit for
t i to development or pre-development activity.
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Urban Forest Ordinance Update: Sec. 82.4. Tree permits Draft 12-3--07
Current Proposed
Sec. 82.4. Tree permits.
(a) When required. A tree permit is required to
damage or remove any four-inch-or-larger tree
(anywhere in the City) or any two-inch-or-larger tree
(located in any street area).
I 1, (b) Application. Any person may apply to the
re e building official for a tree permit. The application
must include: (i) the standard application form, fully-
completed and signed; (ii) the standard application
fee, if any; (iii) a tree survey, if required by the
forestry manual; and (iv) a replacement tree planting
? } • `10 plan, if required by the forestry manual.
=d~ (c) Eligibility. A tree permit may be issued when
the application shows: (i) compliance with this
chapter, the forestry manual and other applicable
regulations, and (ii) that each tree fits at least one of
)4:W these categories:
Table 82-4. Trees allowed to be removed or damaged
Hazardous. Trees causing unavoidable, serious safety hazards
(disregarding any proposed structures); e.g., they are
structurally unsound or block views of traffic.
Diseased, damaged, dead, suppressed. Trees that are dead,
terminally diseased, severely damaged or severely
suppressed by other tree(s).
Interfering with building. Trees interfering with a lawful
L building, existing or proposed, but only if, based upon a
detailed presentation of alternatives, the urban forester
determines that there is no reasonable alternative that
would avoid removing or damaging the tree.
Interfering with other structure. Trees interfering with a lawful
non-building structure, existing or proposed, but only if the
BSC issues a special exception after finding that: (i) the
circumstances are unique or exceptional; (ii) the
interference is serious, unavoidable and likely to persist
longer than one year, and (iii) there is no reasonable and
feasible alternative that would preserve the tree.
} t;11 L Upgrading. Class III or IV trees, but only if the urban forester
g c considers all trees in or near the affected area and
0L determines that removal will upgrade the urban forest,
because, e.g.: (i) removal would end suppression of a
higher-valued tree, or (ii) the permit requires one or more
higher-value replacement trees in the affected area.
(d) Advice, conditions. The urban forester shall
advise the building official and BSC about
applications and permits. They may insert permit
conditions to carry out this chapter.
(e) Issuance; BSC. The building official is the
"issuing official" (see Chapter 18). However, BSC
approval is required for: (i) an application to remove
or damage a heritage tree, and (ii) an application
referred by the building official because it involves an
especially high impact on the urban forest, or because
it does not clearly show eligibility for the permit.